ONCE FALLEN is a site that provides comprehensive information site on sex offender
issues. The ONCE FALLEN mission:
- Provide fact guides on a variety of sex offender laws and related issues
- Provide support and referral services for individuals impacted by these laws
The site ONCE FALLEN: comprehensive research about all topics related to “sex offenders”.
- The Criminalization of Teen Sex
- “The Troll Patrol:” Protecting yourself against vigilantism
- “Once Fallen” E-Book by Derek Logue (Abstract of the book, Link to buy PDF or Kindle version)
- False Allegations & Witch Hunts
- A critique of Victim Rights Groups (VRG) in relation to sex offender info and legislation A hilarious rating of “victims rights” groups. Most of them got bad grades for perpetuating false myths and distorting reality. But one group earned his A rating. The Jacob Wetterling Foundation (www.jwf.org): [...] “A+ (24 points): The JWF sets a gold standard for all VRGs to follow. The site is well put out, their information is free, easily ccessible, and factual. Few other VRGs take a sensible approach to the sex crime problem. Simply put, its as close to perfection as VRGs go “.
- “REGISTRY-MANIA: The Expansion of Sex Offender Registries To Other Undesirables” Actually, I disagree with Derek, I think it might be a good idea to register REAL criminals like child killers, violent criminals, dangerous dogs. Makes more sense then registering consensual child kissers for life.
- About Derek Logue
I am a FORMER Registrant currently residing in Alabama. On February 20, 2000 I was arrested in Alabama for making sexual contact (kissing) with an 11-year-old girl I had known while I was in college (around my 23rd birthday). I plead guilty to one count of 1st degree sexual abuse and received a six year sentence. I served 3 years at Bullock County Correctional Facility in Alabama, voluntarily took sex offender treatment sources, and was released on April 1, 2003. About Derek Logue
We cannot really know if this story is true, because by our language distorting laws, a child kisser gets called a “child rapist”. This is how our language has been redefined (see other articles about Child porn wich hunt and Teenage Sexuality witch hunt in this blog)
In 2003 I began posting at www.sexcriminals.com under the screen name “fallenone.” From my time as a regular poster there and at www.sohopeful.org, I found my calling as an advocate for the rights of sex offenders who have paid their debts to society and seek to rebuild their lives. About Derek Logue
Murderers, burglers, arsonists, extortionists, mob killers, child kidnappers, child mutilators, child killers, everyone gets a chance after they served their term. Interestingly, society is much more afraid of a child kisser then of a child murderer.
As a former sex offender, Derek Logue humbly questions the life sentence of the sex offender law, the fact that they are singled out forever. He does not even dare question the obvious:
Why would one have to spend 3 years in jail for kissing a 11 year old, if she participated willingly. Maybe her father should have watched the child more closely and slapped Mr. Logan. Looks more appropriate to me, That is what would have happened 50 years ago, before the underage witch hunt began. When age of consent was 12 years old, but that referred to sexual activity, not to kisses. (human-stupidity.com)
If these sex offender laws applied to predators that drag little children into the forest and mutilate and kill them, they probably would make sense. But even then, why are these people singled out? An arsonist who sets a school ablaze with a few child victims, he does not need to register after he gets out of jail! Nor will his neighbors and schools be notified of his presence.
Meet Derek Logue, legal rights activist, book author and former sex offender. Derek speaks out about the sex offender registry, Adam Walsh Act and Ohio’s sex offender residency restrictions.
Indecent touching is the same as rape?
To see an example of the opposite opinion, expressed in distorted misleading language
More specifically, convicted child rapist Derek Logue is claiming that Pagans Against Child Abuse, of which I am a member, is hypocritical because as Pagans we “reject the legal, god-given boundaries of sexuality” unlike people like him who have been convicted of raping an 11-year-old girl.
Gay-Bashing, Child Raping “Conservative Christian” Derek Logue Claims Pagans Have No Morals!
More specifically, convicted child rapist Derek Logue is claiming that Pagans Against Child Abuse, of which I am a member, is hypocritical because as Pagans we “reject the legal, god-given boundaries of sexuality” unlike people like him who have been convicted of raping an 11-year-old girl.
Gay-Bashing, Child Raping “Conservative Christian” Derek Logue Claims Pagans Have No Morals!
He consensually kissed an 11 year old. One might think that this deserves a penalty. But why call this “rape”? There are very befitting words in our language. “Indecent touching of a child” is very befitting. “Molesting” a child still has a connotation of non-consensual, but sure does not get confused with rape. Now, it is legitimate to discuss the appropriate penalty for indecently touching an 11 year old child. But why do you want to confuse the uninformed population by asking “what should be the penalty for raping an 11 year old child” if the transgression really was not rape but indecent touching?
The only explanation I can find: “You intentionally want to confuse and deceive the average person who is unaware that the alleged “rape” want not a rape at all. This intentional dis-information serves your political agenda to con the average person into agreeing to higher penalties, to sex offender registration, etc”.
Where to draw the line? Mainstream TV doubting the wisdom of sex offender registration as practiced today
Even mainstream ABC TV questions the wisdom, why a 19 year old boyfriend, urged to have sex by his 15 year old girlfriend, should spend his life labeled a rapist? And be on the same sex offender list like multiple “real” serial rapists (who attacked unwilling children with violence and against their will) and child rapist killers.
Young Lovers or Sex Offender and Victim?
Texas man branded for life for having sex with his girlfriend, now his wife. See also The Age of Consent: When Young Love Is a Sex Crime: Man Labeled a Sex Offender for Consensual Sex With Girlfriend, Then 15, Now His Wife and rickyslife.com/
WATCH: Age of Consent: Sex Laws Gone Too Far?
Sex offender registries created in the 1990′s as a response to media coverage
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WATCH: Age of Consent: Practice What You Preach
Some politicians who promote tough sex laws don’t abide by them.
WATCH: Age of Consent: Double Standard?
If a woman has sex with a teenage boy, is that less of a crime? Should it be?
#1 by Derek Logue on 08:52 AM - 08:52 AM
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I’m sure you’ll get plenty of my detractors here soon enough. But it goes to show the insanity when it comes to sex offender laws.
The moment the term “sex offender” is mentioned, people conjure up the dirty old man in the wrinkled trenchcoat stereotype. Sex offenders are a very diverse group. That is why I have to put up such a lengthy disclaimer so ignorant people can understand what my site is about.
Everything at my website is backed by references to valid research, unlike many sites out there like Family Watchdog. These laws are in serious need of reform. Even Patty Wetterling has spoken out in favor of sweeping reforms.
Thank you for spotlighting my website. The truth needs to be told!
#2 by Rob Taylor on 11:55 AM - 11:55 AM
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I really don’t know the details of the case. And yes, 11 looks quite young. I prefer to discuss cases of 16 and 17 year olds where it is clearer that the girl really knows what she is doing.
So I retreat to my main message: “Why do you call something a “rape” if it isn’t? Why do you offend all the true violent non-consensual penetrative rape victims by lumping them together with consensual fondling “victims”? This is just purposeful manipulation of language, which, unfortunately, backfires in the case of victims of “real, true rape in the classic sense of the word”". Damn, you cannot even say when someone really got raped or just agreed to fondling.
You really think these crimes are identical? Tell that to an 11 year old that was violently attacked and raped at knifepoint. Tell her that this is the same as her agreeing to being fondled. Why do you use the same terminology for two totally different actions?
Actually, I am working on articles, where I use your logic, that a 6 year old cannot consensually eat junk food, and thus is a victim of poisoning. Which makes more sense, because a 6 year old really has no clue that he is on the way to a live as an obese diabetes victim due to the bad food and exercise choices of his family.
Rob Taylor, I like your site, I agree with some of your points, though we differ very much on others.
We might agree on issues like “human rights” for law breakers, government bailouts and government deficit spending, etc where I also see blind irrational behavior (guided by greed, or do-good idealism).
Actually, my site really is not specifically about underage sex and child pornography. It is about witch hunts of all kinds, about human unconsciousness, blindness, taboos, ….
It just so happens that this is one of the most blatant taboos and distortions in modern times.
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Due to language distortion, it is not clear what Derek did. But it seems he did not rape in a classical sense of the word.
So, lacking proper knowledge of the fact, I again retreat to my main position:
Would you worry more if Derek lived next to you? or an arsonist who every 3 year sets another house ablaze, with people in it? or a violent robber and drunk punk who beats up someone else every weekend, when not in jail?
I prefer Derek. And I wonder why nobody notifies the neighbors of other clearly dangerous criminals.
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Amber Lynn Wood, 31-year old woman from Erath County, Texas was arrested last week for sexual assault of a child. Stephenville police officer found Amber Wood alone in a parked car in a secluded area of the City Park with a juvenile male.
After questioning the 14-year-old boy, officer learned that the pair had been
involved in a “relationship” for an extended period of time. The alleged
victim is reported to be a Stephenville student.
Jeff Meador, public information officer for GISD said Wood was student teaching on the Granbury High School campus. She was removed from the program following her arrest.
The investigation is ongoing. Individuals with any information on this case, or those who know of other potential victims are strongly encouraged to contact Stephenville police.
http://naughtyneighbors.zoeoez.com/2009/03/12/amber-wood-texas/