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Mall Girls (Galerianki): Polish Teens Exchange Sex for Smart Phones

mallgirls_05Mall Girls: teens who sell sex in Poland, and their sponsors (Galerianki)

Japan’s enjo kosai are the most famous teenagers who have sex with older men in order to buy stylish goods, but research reveals this relationship around the world. What seems to signal a loss of morals (for many commentators) is that the teenagers in question are not ‘poor’, since poverty is seen to ’excuse’ selling sex. See recent ideas about the desire to keep whore stigma away from women engaging in transactional sex. [..]

Katarzyna Roslaniec shot Mall Girls at a shopping center in central Poland, where four teenage girls turn tricks with men they call sponsors. ’Look at a guy’s shoes, his watch and his phone and you can tell if it’s expensive. It’s a start, right?’ Sex is exchanged for products like blouses, not for cash, and is provided in mall toilets or cars in the parking lot (Poland Looks Inward).

Mall Girls (Galerianki) 1/8 | YouTube

2009_mall-girlsYou can see all 8 parts of the film on YouTube. But seemingly no subtitles 2 3 4 5 6 7 8. If you google "filesonic galerianki.2009" you will find it in polish and you will need to get the galerianki (mall girl) subtitles. Drag and drop the subtitles into the vlc video player.

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Shopping malls – today’s place of creating desires. Best jewelry, clothes, shoes. Unaffordable by young girls, but they "work" to get themselves sponsors for new items.   International Movie Data Base //Trailer (polish, no subtitles)

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Child porn hysteria news

  1. Cartoon characters need protection from sexual abuse, Australia’s supreme court recognized. According to the voodoo theory of child porn, each time someone looks at the cartoon, the cartoon figure will be victimized again. Or maybe the paper, or the computer hard disk will be victimized. 
  2. Police see rise in child porn cases committed by children: Of course, children are live walking child pornography themselves. When they look in the bathroom mirror, what do they see? Child pornography, of course.  And children need to be protected from themselves. Putting them in a court of law to save them from victimizing themselves. Sorry, we have difficulty understanding this nonsense witch hunt beliefs.
  3. Rethinking Sex Offender Laws for Youth Texting |NYT. Excesses of Child pornography hysteria victimize innocent children of law abiding middle class parents. So there is a tendency to fix the worst excesses of child pornography laws. This is a small step to reduce victims of child pornography laws. Fewer people care about adult men who spend 20 years in prison for possession of pictures. Child porn laws victimize children directly, as  "child pornographers", Milton Diamond has proven that child porn prohibition laws also victimize children indirectly, by increasing real child sexual abuse, 
  4. Pornography sentence unconstitutionally cruel, judge rules. Forensic Psychology web site quoting Judge Weinstein. Worth reading.
  5. Sex Gulag, a great web site:

Consider that child pornography was actually LEGAL at one time. Later, it became illegal to PRODUCE. And then it became illegal to DISTRIBUTE. And then it became illegal to SHOW to someone else. And then it became illegal to POSSESS if produced AFTER a certain date. And then all possession became illegal. And then the penalties became stiffer. Then stiffer, still. And stiffer again and again.

How true

Consider also that child pornography now includes DRAWINGS and CARTOONS which at no time involved the use of actual children, something that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago.

How true. Even voodoo theory can not justify this. Robert Kurzban can explain how even then victims can be found.

And these laws can DESTROY the rest of your LIFE, even if there are no victims.

This is the essence of incremental social engineering (Quoted from Sex Gulag)


1) simpsons-child-pornFake Simpsons cartoon is ‘child porn’

A fake cartoon depicting Bart and Lisa from The Simpsons engaging in sexual acts has been deemed as child pornography.

Supreme Court judge Justice Michael Adams ruled in Australia that child cartoon characters could depict a real person.

The Simpsons were doctored to depict child pornography

He upheld a magistrate judge’s decision to convict Alan John McEwan of possessing child pornography after the internet cartoons were found on his computer.

The animation depicted characters modelled on Bart, Lisa and Maggie Simpson engaging in sex acts. [...]

McEwan appealed against the ruling, arguing that fictional cartoon characters could not be considered people.

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What is a Pedophile? Hebephile, Ephebophile, Teleiophile, Infantophile

15 year old Brooke Shields - no pedophilia, rather Ephebophilia, or Teleiophilia.

Hebephile, a newly proposed diagnostic classification in which people display a sexual preference for children at the cusp of puberty, between the ages of, roughly, 11 to 14 years of age. Pedophiles, in contrast, show a sexual preference for clearly prepubescent children. There are also ephebophiles (from ephebos, meaning “one arrived at puberty” in Greek), who are mostly attracted to 15- to 16-year-olds; teleiophiles (from teleios, meaning, “full grown” in Greek), who prefer those 17 years of age or older); and even the very rare gerontophile (from gerontos, meaning “old man” in Greek), someone whose sexual preference is for the elderly. So although child sex offenders are often lumped into the single classification of pedophilia, biologically speaking it’s a rather complicated affair. Some have even proposed an additional subcategory of pedophilia, “infantophilia,” to distinguish those individuals most intensely attracted to children below six years of age.
Based on this classification scheme of erotic age orientations, even the world’s best-known fictitious “pedophile,” Humbert Humbert from Nabokov’s masterpiece, Lolita, would more properly be considered a hebephile. (Likewise the protagonist from Thomas Mann’s Death in Venice, a work that I’ve always viewed as something of the “gay Lolita”).  
Why most "pedophiles" aren’t really pedophiles, technically speaking | Scientific American

Photo of 10 year old Brooke Shields might be just artistic photography. But those who feel sexually attracted are pedophiles.The meaning of the word "Pedophile" was manipulatively changed and distorted. Pedophile is a clearly defined scientific term meaning an adult that has attraction to pre-pubertal children.

We are discussing grammar, semantics, and politics of language manipulation here.
We are not defending or condoning pedophile activities.

Brooke Shields (2008). Is she getting victimized each time one watches her movies or adolescent nude/bikini photos? 1000's times per day?Correct Terminology

Hebephiles, Ephebophiles, Teleiophile were grouped into the "pedophile" group. So a "worse label’ can be attached to a sexual offender. An "adolescent lover" who had a 17 year old girlfriend is called "child lover" (or rather, in a second step of vilification, child rapist). Sure helps to secure longer jail terms and to get the population angry.  This is exactly identical to the manipulation that extended the word "child" from under 12 or under 14, to under 18, admittedly for the purpose of enforcing child protection laws for adolescents.

Additionally, child mutilators and murderers are usually called "pedophiles" in the press. Killing children has nothing to do with "child lovers" or sexual attraction for children.

Brooke Shields re-victimized constantly?

Thus someone gets arrested for possession of Brooke Shields 15 year photos , falsely called a pedophile, and the average Joe thinks he is a baby murderer. Note that the bikini photo of a 15 year-old  becomes child pornography in case one collects the photo for sexual arousal (Copine level 4).

According to child porn persecution theory, "children" (under 18) get re-victimized whenever someone looks at their depictions.. We prevented the re-victimization of Brooke Shields through the first 10 year old photo by putting black bars at all private parts.  Add to this the famous Brooke Shields movies (Blue Lagoon, …) , one can see that Brooke Shields constantly gets re-victimized thousands of times per day by people who watch these movies with an impure mind.

Ruinous persecution of mother and father for innocent  baby bath photos.  It is preposterous to assume that parents or a large number of men are "infantophiles".  We want to stress that attraction to infants is a serious sexual aberration and certainly must not be acted upon.

Infantophiles

Of course, Infant abusers can be labelled with a stronger label then "pedophile". Those attracted to 17 year olds are more ostracised by the incorrect application of the name "pedophile" or child lover, then by "teleiophile", late adolescent lover. To reach the maximum vilification, the word "infantophile" is now, correctly, created. It is undesirable that perverts that mess with infants can hide behind the word "pedophile", which could mean attraction to 9 year olds.

We are discussing grammar, semantics, and politics of language manipulation here. We are not defending or condoning pedophile activities.

There are also law abiding pedophiles who declaredly do not act upon their attraction. These, in spite of being accused merely of thought crimes, are in danger of being hurt by angy pedophile vigilantes.

Other Language manipulation ("rape", "consent")

Human-Stupidity has assailed the manipulative distortion of language is very common in the service of criminalizing adolescent sexuality.  The meaning of "rape" and "consent" have been manipulatively changed, just like "pedophile" and "child".

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Que nojo! Um homen! Histerismo s/ pedofilia prejudica e mata crianças

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Vigilantes anti-pedofilos concordam com pai, 47, na Alemanha que castrou namorado, 57, da filha, 17 anos

 

 

 

 

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Helmut Seifert, 47, an ethnic German originally from Russia, was enraged when he heard his 17-year-old daughter was having a relationship with Phillip Genscher, 57.

He went to police in the town of Bielefeld where he lives but officers said they were powerless to intervene.

"The man then recruited two work colleagues at his factory and then went to the house of the victim," said police.

"The man was forced to remove his trousers and, fully conscious, he was castrated. The severed testicles were taken away by the perpetrator."

The man was close to bleeding to death but managed to call police. His life was saved but he remains a eunuch for life. [...]

He told police: "I received a phone call anonymously that my daughter was involved with a guy 40 years older than her. You said you couldn’t stop him – so I did.

"I saw it as my duty as a father."

German man castrates teenage daughter’s 57-year-old boyfriend (The Telegraph)

This was republished here Dad, 47, in Germany castrates man, 57, for dating 17-year-old daughter (NY Daily News)

  • Note: nowhere did the article say that the couple actually had sex with each other
  • even if they did, the age of consent in Germany is 16, there is absolutely no legal problem

 

Naomid

2:59 PM
Dec 13, 2010

Why is everyone calling this guy a perv?? He was DATING the girl, not raping her! If an 18 year old guy was dating her, would you call him a "perv"?? Remember, Charile Chaplin married his wife when he was 54 and she was 17, and they had 8 kids together and stayed married for 30 years until his death, and she never remarried and is now buried next to him. Is that being a perv? If anyone is a perv, it’s a psychopath who cuts off *****. What do you think that is going to do to his daughter? She is going to be terrified to get into any kind of relationship again.

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Interesting discussion among the NY Daily News Readers

here

 

Dangerous vigilantes

 

Cheetaralysa

5:50 AM
Dec 17, 2010

Good for him! as a father it is his duty, parents need to protect their children. a 57 year old man dating a 17 year old he sounds like a child molester. I cant believe most of your responses protecting this pervert! America has gotten soft and that is why our country allows child molester books to go on sale on Amazon.com! regardless of the statuatory age limit in Germany russia whatever the mind of a 17 and a 57 year old dont match. the father did what he did and didnt even give up his boys…i salute him. that pervert will be scarred for life, im sure he molested other young girls guaranteed. america stop being soft.

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kitty62862

2:02 PM
Dec 13, 2010

Why? A 17 year old has zero emotional maturity; won’t for about 10 more years. There is no way on the face of this earth that man isn’t out for totally fresh tail. Do that to my baby, pray that I only castrate you. We’ve taught her well, but someone who is determined sometimes succeeds. There’s no way that relationship is ok. No way. At 17, you are still legally responsible. I called my husband to tell him about this. This is what he said: "You help me, then cut yourself a plea deal and testify against me" We love our daughter, end of story. It is not ok at 17. It is not ok under 25. Period.

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iluvbball

12:24 PM
Dec 13, 2010

Good for him, at least this child molester wont harm anybody else’s child.

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sadtruth

1:10 AM
Dec 15, 2010

I don’t blame him for doing that to a 57 year old parasite. She may be a siren but she’s young and still much the immature adolescent. The old man ought to have known better than take advantage of this woman. He’s lucky that all he lost were his *****…

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StoutKraut

8:10 AM
Dec 14, 2010

You might say that I’m over reacting, but if he was dating my daughter, after I cut ‘em off, I’d make sure he would be eating them for dinner!

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ibmtech

9:49 AM
Dec 14, 2010

The senior citizen won’t have the ***** to take the 47 year old to court.. My hat is off to the father.

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Toy

12:54 PM
Dec 14, 2010

Good for him…..I wouldn’t find that guy guilty of anything other than a decent sense of justice… LEt the moron how fouled his daughter take his stones home in a jar, and think about if it was worth it… (snicker)

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kitty62862

1:07 PM
Dec 13, 2010

I have a daughter this age. My husband would do the very same thing, and I would help. Bank on it.

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chanchis

2:32 PM
Dec 13, 2010

This man deserves a trophy, not jail time.

KOOLPOPPA

2:35 PM
Dec 13, 2010

MY HERO.

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kenman

1:43 PM
Dec 13, 2010

Good for the dad. He should have fried them up and made the daughter eat them…kinda like finding your kid smoking and making them smoke a whole pack of cigs in the closet until they finish.

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MariaLatin

11:16:13 PM
Dec 18, 2010

Good for Dad!! Only way to stop these old coots from praying on young girls, he got what he deserved. I hope it will be a trend around the world. Best way to handle this type of thing – he’ll live, not well but he does not deserves more than that. Child molesters next.

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oharris303

3:16 PM
Dec 13, 2010

OUCH!! My daughter is 18 and I would do the same even though she is on her own. Nasty old men. Disgusting! Date within your own age range. Disgusting seeing these old coots with young women, don’t care who they are. Loose their money and loose the young woman.

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LucilleG

11:56 PM
Dec 13, 2010

It’s good to see men taking their parental responsibilities seriously. If we had more of what this father did in this country, particularly pertaining to domestic abuse and rape, all women in this county would have a better life. I hope the jury has mercy on this dad and gives him probation or a very short jail sentence. Also, next time a father tells a man to stay away from his daughter they will remember this case and heed his warning.

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shari123

1:14 PM
Dec 13, 2010

OUCHHHHH, too extreme for a 17 yr old. If his daughter was 10 yrs younger, then i would say kudos to the dad.

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The correct legal situation info about German law

brooklynNYC

1:14:58 PM
Dec 14, 2010

The age of consent in Germany is 14, as long as a person over the age of 21 does not exploit a 14–15 year-old person’s lack of capacity for sexual self-determination. In this rare and special case, a conviction on an individual over the age of 21 requires a complaint from the younger individual; being over 21 and engaging in sexual relations with a minor of that age does not constitute an offense in and of itself. Otherwise the age of consent is 14 As specified by Sections 176 (Sexual abuse of children) and 182 (Sexual abuse of youths), which read: § 176: "(1) Whoever commits sexual acts on a person under fourteen (14) years of age (a child) or allows them to be committed on himself by the child, shall be punished by imprisonment from six months to ten years [...]" § 180: "(1) Whoever abets the commission of sexual acts of a person under sixteen years of age on or in front of a third person or sexual acts of a third person on a person under sixteen years of age: 1. by actin

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Positive and understanding opinions

 

anabelle23

4:23:30 PM
Dec 14, 2010

the little strumpet knew EXACTLY what she was doing. this entire puritanical hypocrisy is the stuff puke is made from. the older man probably treated her better than most young men who pretend to love, deflower, and dump leaving them emotionally scarred and damaged. the father was wrong, wrong, wrong – hope they castrate him then throw him into a gay prison for 20 years. there is a reason why girls can make babies at 13 so stop pretending they are innocent little angels. some of them are more savvy and cunning than professional streetwalkers.

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Chad66

1:47 PM
Dec 13, 2010

The girl likes older men. So who cares. Or was Daddy jealous because she was dating this other guy and not her own Daddy. Beisdes, like someone mentioned, nothing was said about having sex. AND why did Daddy need other people to help him. And if she likes older ment , there will always be older men around. Daddy should get 40 years in jail. at lest.

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lebinz

1:51 PM
Dec 13, 2010

You’re all talking about two different things. 1. whether or not this is a child molestation case (i tend to think that this is an insult to REAL cases where 9 and 12 year are being raped), and 2. whether older men should date younger women. The first is clear, the children should be protected, the second is not only stupid, but insulting to women. Just like we shouldn’t be telling women what to do with their own bodies; just like it is wrong for muslim women to be stoned for cheating; we should respect their decision. Whether you feel comfortable or not isn’ the issue, that is your opinion and it is none of your business.

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lebinz

1:55 PM
Dec 13, 2010

And it is funny how, as a manager, I can’t tell a 20yr old "I don’t hire women so young" but we as total strangers can say who they get to date and who they don’t get to date. Even by imposing restrictions on the "age limit" they are allowed to date is simply treating them like a piece of property. No one says this about boys. Boys do whatever they want with whomever they want. Demmi Moore picks up someone younger than she is and she gets a pat on the back. Donald Trump dates a model and people are angry. Women are property. Simple as that. This is why some of you are so outrage at the simple fact that there is an age difference.

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plsstoptheHate101

1:49 PM
Dec 13, 2010

Josie911 I take personal offense to your statement because I am one of those that has benefited from Viagra, and I am putting my 19yr old girlfriend to college. So what do we have in common, she is getting a free education and I keep a smile on my face, what is wrong with that.

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plsstoptheHate101

2:17 PM
Dec 13, 2010

I was going Yeah good for him until I realise that I am 55 and dating a 19yr old…thanks to Viagra she is very happy. I tell you what, there is not a young man today if he lives to be an old man who will not appreciate Viagra. Pryor to Viagra men committed suicide.

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OBJ

3:19 PM
Dec 13, 2010

Zeke: And Hindus and French Catholics and Canadian. In much of the world young women marry older men for stability and security. Their philosophy is why marry a guy and be with him during the struggling years when you can marry someone who is already established. And end up a well-off widow.

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RickEvans033050

7:57:08 AM
Dec 20, 2010

The number of sociopath posters applauding this guy’s actions is appalling. Yes the age difference is disturbing however a 17 year old is not a little girl. Also, using ‘man’ to describe him is a stretch considering the coward had to recruit a couple of thug pals to restrain the victim. It’s one thing for this 47 year old to man-up and go one-on-one against the 57 year old victim over his daughters’ "honor". This was a cowardly lynching

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giantnyc

12:21 PM
Dec 13, 2010

While involvement with a teenager is despicable, I generally do not agree that people should be left to impose their brand of justice. Disguisting, yes, but was the low-life committing an illegal act? Was she at the age of legal consent? What if the father decides other things are his duty; restrictions based on religion, race, political leanings, anyone older than any age he decides is too old? Where is the limit? That is tough to say, but there is the law. He should probably have put on his thinking cap on and addressed why his young daughter is getting involved with an old man in the first place. Instead, he will be in jail, unable to help his daughter deal with her issues. Maybe this was more about him than his daughter. I dunno.

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Brooke Shields nua: explorada and e atração p/ pedófilos?

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UE quer gardar dados de máquinas de busca para caçar pedófilos

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Caça aos pedófilos e leis exagerados sobre sexualidade de menores: o porquê desta caça às bruxas? como mudar e solucionar?

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