Human Stupidity: Irrationality, Self Deception

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There has been a lengthy discussion on reddit, worth reading. Please continue the discussion here

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cw549/when_a_rape_is_not_a_rape_the_abuse_of_the_word/
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I will make a few exerpts from Reddit here
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Keyaira14

No, the point was actually I believe perfectly made. Here the person discusses the fact that rape is now a term given to all kinds of offenses, wether or not rape as it is usually understood (forced penetration etc.) was involved. And by that it makes the point that it also diminishes the meaning of the word rape. The fact is that, knowing that “rape” could be almost anything, one might read of a rape and think it very plausible that in fact there was no “true” rape, but a lesser offense. And the possible error made here makes the point all the more valid! When one reads “rape of a 15 years old by a 35 years old” and concludes that it might well have been the old man seducing the girl and then being convicted of rape, while in fact it WAS a “true” rape, I think it proves beyond ANY reasonable doubt that, because of it’s overuse, rape lost a great part of it’s meaning.

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miketheexpert

Didn’t read the article, but I was acussed of rape two times in my life. The first was a drunk girl that I knew, and she got really drunk, hotnhorney one night. I told her that I was putting her in my bed, and she should wake my up on the couch the next morning, instead, she pulls me into bed, jumps on top of me, thrusting her tits in my face, and pulled my pants down, after which I did hers, and we ‘tried’ to have sex, except she was soooooo dry, that it never happened.

The next time was a girlfriend that somehow scored some crack and so so fucked up, she opened the front door and screemed ‘rape’. I left my house, made a huge scratch on the back of my neck, and when the cops arrived, they saw the scratch and said, “she was obviously the aggressor”. I never did anything wrong with either one… but the first one, she knew all my friends and then I lost them just as quick. About 5 years later, she confessed that I didn’t rape her, but at that time, my friends were already gone.

**** another comment from reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cw549/when_a_rape_is_not_a_rape_the_abuse_of_the_word/

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The upshot of this narrow, archaic definition is that many rapes are excluded from the [FBI's annual crime] statistics — including forced anal sex and/or oral sex, vaginal or anal fisting, rape with an object (even if serious injuries result), and other injurious and degrading sexual assaults that would be considered rape by any rational adult.

A press release from the foundation added: “It also excludes statutory rape and omits rape by men against men and any rape by a woman. Moreover, this out-dated definition of rape excludes the use of drugs or alcohol to subdue a victim, a common tactic used today.” We aren’t talking about a minor quibble over language; these are critical omissions that cast this week’s finding that the rape rate is declining in a much less encouraging light.

http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/09/14/rape_hearing

We are all in favor of clarity. Anal rape, male on male rape should be included. Even statutory rape, if someone wants to add it, provided it does not get mixed up in general rape numbers but as a separate category.

We do not want to link to change.org sucks, but there are some intelligent commentators in this post, that make it worth reading:
womensrights.change.org/blog/view/the_fbis_shockingly_narrow_definition_of_rape