The punishment for violating the privacy of adults is negligible compared to the draconian child porn prison terms he faces. For peeping and filming minors, he is likely to suffer enormous and disproportional punishment. Decades for each count of child pornography "production" could add up to a century.

The victims did not even notice they were filmed. So they did not suffer great harm (except for the Voodoo theory of child porn victimization).  No, I am not saying that there should be no punishment.

But does it make sense to punish him as strictly as for child kidnapping for ransom?

• Do you prefer your child to be secretly watched and filmed by a shy immature pervert or be kidnapped?
• Don’t you prefer your kid to be secretly filmed on the tanning bed 100 times, then to suffer one single instance of kidnapping?  I would be more concerned about the cancer risk from 100 tannings.

Wouldn’t you rather have your kid secretly filmed on a tanning bed then to fall victim to any of the following

• The neighborhood gang extorting an adolescent’s or child’s lunch money
• School bullies sticking a kid’s head in the toilet or beating the child (even if only lightly)
• Drunk drivers running over children on the street
• Bicycle robbers that dangerously push children off bicycles
• Dog owners that don’t keep their dogs leashed, locked, muzzled and thus get children bitten?
• A flash mob roaming the neighborhood, setting ablaze buildings

All the above crimes carry much lower penalties.  So why does our perverted filming peeping Tom get so much higher penalties then those who truly endanger and traumatize our children?

This peeping Tom erred, committed a puerile immature mistake. Unlike many other victims of the child pornography witch hunt that are totally innocent

• Jailed for possession of video of himself masturbating when he was 12. Another victim of child porn laws faces minimum 2 year jail
• Family pictures of nude baby bath: ruinous child porn prosecution
• "Operation Protect Our Children" mistakenly shuts down 84,000 Sites with no child porn
• Sexting: Courts victimize Teens with child porn charges for exchanging their own nude photos
• Border arrest & instant jail for owning DVD with young looking 19 year old porn star.
• Dangerous pedophile hunters threaten harmless pedophile (Jack McClellan)
• Pedophilia witch hunt discussed by academia and press

This peeping Tom is an example of compulsive people who might be helped to refrain from acting out their urges with real children, if they had easier access to legal child "pornography": depictions of harmless photos and videos of adolescents in tanning beds.

• Legalizing Child Pornography reduces child sex abuse crimes (Scientific study by Dr. Milton Diamond, U. Hawaii)

We can not know if he was interested in actual true children because we invented manipulative language to confuse on purpose, confuse adolescents with children

 

"Tanning bed pervert" nailed for kiddie porn production

Doyce Dean Griffis of Starke, FL, is charged with seven counts of production of child pornography, two counts of receiving child pornography, and one count of possession of child pornography.

According to police reports, from February 2000 until April 26 of this year, the 48-year old Griffis operated and maintained a tanning bed in an "outbuilding" at his residence.

[...] without to his customers’ knowledge, the room had been equipped by Griffis with a two-way mirror that allowed him to view the room from a second concealed room. Griffis also made a hole in an air vent near the foot of the tanning bed that allowed him to view the customers as they lay inside the tanning bed.

Using the two-way mirror and the hole in the air vent, Griffis secretly videotaped dozens of female customers, including minors.

On each of the production counts, Griffis faces 15 to 30 years in federal prison. On each of the receipt counts, he faces five to 20 years in prison. On the possession count, he faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in federal prison.

Find dozens more articles about the excesses of the child porn witch hunt and the damage it causes.

Think hard: maybe you took some indecent photos of yourself. Or your family album contains nunde photos mom took when you were a toddler.  Burn your childhood pictures while you still are out of jail!

Human-Stupidity.com Analysis

1. This is one of the extreme cases of the child porn witch hunt.
   1. Totally uselessly causing trauma in innocent people,
   2. huge expenses in legal fees,
   3. bogging up police and law enforcement capacity for nonsensical persecution
2. Of course, the child porn prosecutions are meant to protect an innocent child “victim” from abuse. So 25 year old John Doe gets jailed to protect 12 year old John Doe from abusing himself? Or 12 year old John Doe gets protected from being re-victimized when 25 year old John Doe watches his own movie? Or 25 year old John Doe might have totally forgotten his old movie and not have watched it for a decade. Still, he needs to be jailed to be protected from victimization!? And of course, as a child abuser, he will most likely be raped in prison. How far has our logic and our legal system sunk.
3. Most normal people would agree that this is excessive zeal. Of course, then the question arises: where should the limit be drawn?
   • what kind of child porn should be punished?
   • should possession of depictions of legal acts really be punished?
   • Should people be punished for a video of child sexual activity that by all definitions was not abuse?
   • And does the possession of computer files, that are nothing but 0′s and 1′s really get people into jail for years? The USA has a tradition of freedom of expression that are getting more encroached upon. Human Stupidity analyzes this on other posts.
   • “Sticks and stones may break my bones (but words will never hurt me)”.  Should we not, in analogy, say: Sexual abuse may hurt me, but 0′s and 1′s in computer files will never hurt me. All this trauma could be avoided by scrapping all laws for possession. Punish abusers, not people who possess the photos.
   • Almost all so called “child porn” in reality is “adolescent nudity” or consensual “sexual activities” of sexually active teenagers. We are not not aware of any deaths due to child porn production. Most child porn is totally harmless, like adolescents taking their own photos, or formerly legal 16 year old sex films made legally in Holland 30 years ago.
   • On the other hand there was a death in the production of the following documentary:  Beating Death Of Derrion Albert,16,Caught On Video as described in Nude adolescent photos: a Crime. Videos of lynching, killing, beating adolescents are legal Prime Time TV. Possession, production, and distributions are perfectly legal.
4. I wish to get confirmation of this story from a reputable news agency or newspaper, instead of a hearsay report.  But even if it were untrue, it could happen. It rings true. Similar things have happened, 15 year old girls get traumatized with sexting charges for harmless nude photos. So prosecuting an adult for the movies he took of himself 15 years ago, looks convincing and true

Some commentators at reddit remarked that he is stupid for still being with that girl. But by conventional wisdom she acted correctly. She found heinous child porn of a 12 year old masturbating and reported it to police.

PS: don’t miss the sex-positive reddit r/MensRightsMovement

“Harry J Anslinger was head of the U.S. Federal Bureau of Narcotics which enforced the prohibition of alcohol in the U.S.A. from 1919 to 1933. When prohibition was repealed, Anslinger, in order to keep and justify his existence and job, created the Orwellian lies about a new killer drug – marihuana. [...] In 1937 Anslinger had a hearing conducted before Congress which resulted in the Marihuana Tax Act and henceforth the whole legal injustice took off.” THE JURISPRUDENCE OF THE ILLEGAL DRUG LAWS AND WHY THE DRACONIAN PENALTIES ?

All irrational witch hunts seem to originate in the USA.

All irrational witch hunts seem to originate in the USA(child porn witch hunt, teenage sex witch hunt, anti prostitution witch hunt, and illegal drug witch hunt).  And the USA imposes the witch hunt upon the rest of the world.

Why is this so? Who has the answers?

Drug Liberalization in Portugal and Holland: a success

Portugal just reports clear successes with legalization of drugs. Holland legalization of drugs and most of teenage sex is a resounding success.

“Portugal decriminalized possession of all drugs in 2001. The outcome, after nearly a decade, according to a study published in the November issue of the British Journal of Criminology: less teen drug use, fewer HIV infections, fewer AIDS cases and more drugs seized by law enforcement. Adult drug use rates did slightly increase — but this increase was not greater than that seen in nearby countries that did not change their drug policies. The use of drugs by injection declined.”
Read more: Portugal’s Drug Experience: New Study Confirms Decriminalization Was a Success

“The Dutch are known for their liberal attitudes toward sex and drugs: while not officially legal, marijuana use and sale in “coffee shops” is tolerated in The Netherlands, as is prostitution, most notoriously in the street windows of Amsterdam’s red light district. Pragmatism, the Dutch have long believed, is better than punitive prohibition — and they’ve got lots of data on their side.While 12% of the American population has smoked marijuana in the last month, for example, the same is true of only 5% of citizens of The Netherlands.”
Read more: What the U.S. Can Learn from the Dutch About Teen Sex

Benefit and uses of Marijuana

“Marihuana was first recorded by the Chinese in 2737 B.C. and in the State of Virginia in 1631 it became compulsory by law that farmers grow a certain percentage of marihuana because of its diverse and deep industrial use.

It is the toughest natural fibre in existence (hemp rope etc.) and produces three times as much fibre per acre than cotton, four times more pulp than woodchip to produce quality archival paper. Because of its toughness marihuana was a great threat to the new chemical artificial nylon fibre industry and the latter joined in the conspiracy of Orwellian lies about pot.

Along with its medicinal use (glaucoma, arthritis, chemo-therapy cancer) pot is being denied its use for society because of Harry J Anslinger being the single major cause of the Orwellian lies and laws about marihuana. With such an  historical basis the Law is neither majestic nor dignified.”  THE JURISPRUDENCE OF THE ILLEGAL DRUG LAWS AND WHY THE DRACONIAN PENALTIES ?

Alcohol and tobacco, much more dangerous then Marijuana.

And why not regulate marijuana like alcohol? Every major study has shown marijuana is non-addictive and less harmful than alcohol or tobacco. See: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/studies.htm — In fact, deaths from alcohol are around 400,000 per year with tobacco more than that. Add the carnage alcohol causes in traffic accidents and alcohol fueled violence and the numbers are staggering.
Now, deaths from marijuana – ZERO. That’s right. No recorded deaths from marijuana in its entire history. There are also no recorded cases of cancer caused from marijuana and consuming it in other ways – food, drink or vaporization – eliminates the minor harm caused by smoke.
To treat marijuana consumption more strictly than alcohol is one of the greatest travesties of justice that exists. In fact, it is a monstrously destructive fraud that brands over 700,000 U.S. citizens with a criminal record EACH YEAR!
Why do we still have this barbaric persecution? Because police and politicians like Tanday build their careers and empires on it. Because industries like alcohol and pharmaceuticals don’t want the competition. Because other interests like the drug treatment/testing industry and the prison industries depend on it for their life’s blood. And because government uses marijuana prohibition as a means of controlling minorities and the poor.
There NEVER was a good reason for marijuana prohibition. See http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/whiteb1.htm

Source: medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/5681/

THE JURISPRUDENCE OF THE ILLEGAL DRUG LAWS AND WHY THE DRACONIAN PENALTIES ?

By Dean R. Dowling

Drug A is pharmacologically and psychologically far more harmful than drugs B or C in the following 6 respects:

(l) Death rates
(ll) Addiction rates
(lll) Withdrawal
(lV) Overdose
(V) Destruction of brain/body cells
(VI) Behaviour

Politicians then give the Queen’s Honours to the producers of drug A and simultaneously give 25 years jail with appalling unjust disproportionate confiscation of property to the producers of drugs B or C. [...]

Now identify, drug A = alcohol, drug B = marihuana, Drug C = heroin, if pure.
Source: users.on.net/~rmc/drugs.htm

Drug prohibition is very significant

Just as the prohibition of alchol created alcohol trafficing mafia, the drug prohibition is responsible for

• huge income by drug trafficers, who move and own significant amounts of the world’s economic resources
• drug wars that tear apart entire countries like Colombia and Mexico
• Imprisonment of a significant part of the population, partly for violent trafficing crimes, but mainly for mere consumption, planting, or non-violent resale.

Drug Library: everything about drug prohibition, drug war, etc here

• The History of the Non-Medical Use of Drugs in the United States
• The Forbidden Fruit and the Tree of Knowledge: An Inquiry into the Legal History of American Marijuana Prohibition by Professor Richard J. Bonnie & Professor Charles H. Whitebread, II Zip File of the entire report - about 217K.
• The Schaffer Drug Library: very interesting
• druglibrary.org: you can spend weeks reading everything you always wanted to know about drugs

Another summary

And why not regulate marijuana like alcohol? Every major study has shown marijuana is non-addictive and less harmful than alcohol or tobacco. See: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/studies.htm — In fact, deaths from alcohol are around 400,000 per year with tobacco more than that. Add the carnage alcohol causes in traffic accidents and alcohol fueled violence and the numbers are staggering.
Now, deaths from marijuana – ZERO. That’s right. No recorded deaths from marijuana in its entire history. There are also no recorded cases of cancer caused from marijuana and consuming it in other ways – food, drink or vaporization – eliminates the minor harm caused by smoke.
To treat marijuana consumption more strictly than alcohol is one of the greatest travesties of justice that exists. In fact, it is a monstrously destructive fraud that brands over 700,000 U.S. citizens with a criminal record EACH YEAR!
Why do we still have this barbaric persecution? Because police and politicians like Tanday build their careers and empires on it. Because industries like alcohol and pharmaceuticals don’t want the competition. Because other interests like the drug treatment/testing industry and the prison industries depend on it for their life’s blood. And because government uses marijuana prohibition as a means of controlling minorities and the poor.
There NEVER was a good reason for marijuana prohibition. See http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/whiteb1.htm

Source: medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/5681/

Years later, when his then 15 year old daugher (who got spanked by her step father) wanted to move in with her father, he got another anonymous child abuse complaint regarding the 3 year old kid of his girl friend. Mr. Emerson spent multiple times in jail, lived with his father or friends as a favor, lived under a bridge, Over 10 years of ordeals. Life ruined. Because of accusations of an adulterous wife. And a legal system that suspended due process and inverted the burden of proof in most feminist issues like child sexual abuse, wife beating, child porn, etc.

Human-Stupidity.com analysis:  Mr Emerson’s life was ruined by government and legal system

1. extreme feminist laws protecting women, inversion of burden of proof (guilty until proven innocent), no due process.
2. together with a vengeful wife and power seeking government attorneys
3. It is sad if any good law abiding citizen can get ruined by government & vengeful women

Timothy Joe Emerson’s ordeal

Half of the complaints against Mr. Emerson were unproven, the other half obviously wrong or ridiculous:

We are also astounded to find that going through a cashier’s checkout line at Wal-Mart once or twice a week [based on testimony and cancelled checks provided by Joe Emerson] can be construed as a basis for a stalking complaint.

1. So Mr Emerson’s wife had an adulterous affair
2. Without any proof, she alleged her husband had threatened her lover
3. Mr. Emerson received a restraining order to keep away from his wife and not to sell any marital property
4. He was never told that this restraining order prohibits him from having weapons. Mr Emerson always had a big gun collection, something very normal in the USA.
5. Mrs Emerson invaded his office, then claimed she was threatened with a gun. No proof, of course.
6. Mr. Emerson got jailed for his firearms collection
7. Lost his medical license. Was unable to pay support to his wife, so his driver’s license was revoked
   

   Dr. Emerson has been on supervised release since April 28, 2005, and had a hearing in September 2005 so the federal judge could read aloud the special conditions of supervised release in open court.

   After he was paroled he did manage to see his daughter for about an hour before his mother collapsed. The little girl was visiting her grandmother last fall but when Dr. Emerson’s ex-wife found out he was there she took a policeman and forced him to leave and never brought the little girl back.

   Dr. Emerson had been staying at the motel in San Angelo, Texas, where his father lived until he died but at the end of July 2006 he was evicted for non-payment of rent. As is usual in such cases, all his possessions are being held until the unpaid rent is caught up. In order to do that he was making the rounds between Catholic Outreach Services, First Baptist Church, Salvation Army, and other charities. The Equal Justice Foundation is also trying to help and donations marked “Emerson Fund” can be made through PayPal, or by sending a check to the EJF at 455 Bear Creek Road, Colorado Springs, CO 80906-5820. All such donations are tax-deductible and Dr. Emerson receives 100% of your contribution.

   He found a friend to stay with on a temporary basis but is uncertain how long he can stay there. His next step is living in a tent, or under a bridge and he thinks being homeless might be better than having to worry about rent that he can’t pay every month. He says he has most of a tent, and a couple of sleeping bags, one multi-season, and one winter bag, but needs to get a rain fly for the tent, even if it almost never rains in San Angelo.

   He receives food stamps but still is able to eat only every other day or so in part because he can’t get to a store.

   The few friends that he had back before he went to prison have disappeared. A few of his former patients still help him out by driving him places, however.

   He is currently ~$71,000 in arrears on child support. Of course the reason he can’t pay is that his wife’s adultery resulted in his imprisonment and the loss of his medical and drivers licenses. Naturally, he has not been able to get his drivers license or medical license back since being released from prison.

8. In the mean time, a Walmart Cashier had accused him of stalking, simply for using her checkout line twice a week. Later she invented that he was stalking her house. Of course, all without proof. Or worse, proven false. Except, well, he really went to Walmart, but that usually is not a sex crime.
9. When he finally had a minimum wage job as a clerk and a girl friend, an anonymous accusation that he was abusing her 3 year old son got him sacked, evicted, and living on the street.  Of course, no proof. So little proof that “an “investigation” CPS [Child Protective Services] was “unable to determine” that there was any basis to the abuse claims.”.  Actually, there was proof to the contrary, that the accusations were impossible.

Read the entire story: http://www.ejfi.org/emerson.htm

US court on ‘sexting’: Child porn or child’s play?
01/15/2010 PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The first criminal case involving “sexting” reached a U.S. appeals court on Friday — a case that asks whether racy cell-phone photos of three girls amount to child pornography or child’s play.

A county prosecutor in northeastern Pennsylvania threatened to pursue felony charges if the girls skipped his “re-education” course on such topics as sexual predators and “what it means to be a girl in today’s society.”

The photos show two 12-year-olds in training bras at a sleepover and a topless 16-year-old stepping out of the shower.[. . . ]

“You’re going to see more provocative photos in a Victoria’s Secret catalog,” [ . . . ]
newsok.com/us-court-on-sexting-child-porn-or-childs-play/article/3432301

Actually, the analogies are much more convincing then the lawyer’s statement in column 1, which is devoid of any logic or scientifc support. Pure manipulative nonsense. It is intriguing how utter nonsense is socially acceptable whenever it is  backed by feminism and women’s studies. No clue about logic and scientific method. But absolute masters in manipulating public opinion.

Here is the root of the insanity.  Unproven hysterical statements, with no scientific backing, are the excuse for a witch hunt. Feminists use real predators, real rapists, kidnappers and child murderers as an excuse for their political goals.  So innocent girls photographing themselves naked get arrested!  Why should it be a crime to photograph yourself? Maybe it is also a crime for the girls to look into the mirror?

I dare to say something really taboo:  what is the problem if dirty old men like to look at nude adolescent pictures and do absolutely no harm whatsoever. Why should they get 10 years in jail?

So even if it were true that naked pictures of children on the internet draw predators. For what? To look at photos in the privacy of their home? What is the problem? Maybe this is positive, so they don’t go out trying to check out what real adolescents look like naked.

Compare:

There must be a special evolutionary skill how feminists manage to convince male law makers to support their warped feminist  “women studies” logic (Feminist arguments against prostitution debunked)

County officials say they are trying to address the pervasive problem of teens sexting, or exchanging sexually explicit photos and e-mails on their cell phones. According to one study, 20 percent of U.S. teens admit they have done it.

The American Civil Liberties Union considers the images in the Pennsylvania case harmless.

“We’ve been mystified how anybody can look at these photos and say these are second-degree felonies,” Witold J. Walczak, the ACLU of Pennsylvania’s legal director, argued Friday in the U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals.

Either way, he said, officials are flipping the intent of child-pornography laws — to protect children — by going after the victims. It’s unclear who first disseminated the photographs. Each girl insists she did not.

“Turning them into sex offenders is an odd way to protect kids,” Walczak said after the oral arguments. [ . . .]

School officials in Tunkhannock, about 130 miles north of Philadelphia, found the images in late 2008 on cell phones confiscated from junior and senior high school students. They ranged in age from 11 to 17.

Read more:  newsok.com/us-court-on-sexting-child-porn-or-childs-play/article/3432301

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3 face charges in Texhoma ‘sexting’

Published: July 29, 2010

TEXHOMA — Three men have been charged with the possession and distribution of obscene images of an underage girl, a Panhandle prosecutor said. He also said he isn’t sure punishments fit the alleged crime.

Eduardo Cisneros, 18, Diego Guzman, 18, and Cruz Holguin, 19, were charged in Texas County on July 16 with distributing nude photos of a 17-year old girl by phones and email, the prosecutor said.

“It’s a crime, and it needs to be addressed,” Texas County District Attorney Michael Boring said.

“But the only option is to charge them with possessing obscene materials and child pornography.”

There are no state laws that specifically address underage “sexting”- related crimes, he said.

Child porn-related convictions would result in the men having felony records. They also would be required to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.

Read more: newsok.com/3-face-charges-in-texhoma-sexting/article/3480534

Older sexting stories

Published on: Oct 19, 2009

six Pennsylvania high school students are facing child pornography charges after three teenage girls allegedly took nude or semi-nude photos of themselves and shared them with male classmates via their cell phones.

The female students at Greensburg Salem High School in Greensburg, Pa., all 14- or 15-years-old, face charges of manufacturing, disseminating or possessing child pornography while the boys, who are 16 and 17, face charges of possession

convictions would have “serious, serious implications,” including forcing them having to register as sexual offenders for at least 10 years.

a survey of 1,280 teens and young adults found that 20 percent of the teens said they had sent or posted nude or semi nude photos or videos of themselves.

Source: MSNBC

Follow up: community service as punishment

Great. The judge showed common sense and convicted them to minor penalties instead of putting them into jail for 5 years and on sex offender lists for 25 years.

GREENSBURG, Pa. — Criminal cases against Greensburg Salem High School students who were caught “sexting” have been resolved in juvenile court.

All six students — three boys and three girls — were sentenced to curfews and community service, and they each got their cell phones back. [. . . ]
“I think it’s actually really foolish for both the school district and the prosecuting attorneys to make an issue of this thing,” defense attorney Dante Bertani said. “I mean, it’s girls sending pictures of themselves to their boyfriends.”

Still, Bertani said there’s no doubt that naked pictures of children are child pornography.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/19022180/detail.html

Of course, that still leaves questions:

• why should there be any punishment for taking your own photo, naked or not? why can’t you give your own photo to your boyfriend, husband, father?
• what would be the problem if these photos were in possession of adults, even adults who derive sexual excitement from them? The presumption that these adults will go out raping teens are even more far fetched then the idea that spectators of  “Terminator” or “Death Wish” will go out shooting people. Also as late as the 1970′s, mainstream world press would print nude photos of girls as young as 15  (british “page 3 girls”, “Blue Lagoon”) and greek art statues show penises of 4 year old boys.

The most recent tension came from Pakistan’s decision that it will monitor Google, Bing, Yahoo (and other sites) for blasphemous content. Now it is the EU’s turn to try to impose checks on search engines through its controversial "Written Declaration 29."

Written Declaration 29
Italy’s European Member of Parliament, Tiziano Motti, is the author of the proposal, commonly known as Written Declaration 29, adopted last week. His aim was to protect children from abusers and paedophiles lurking on the web by requesting that user data from search engines be stored and used by governments to track sexual offenders.

Source: http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/100629-053942

Don’t we have enough REAL problems?

• A large percentage of children grow up in poverty stricken families, unintegrated into middle class society, condemned to low level of schooling and an unsuccessful life. 
• Hundreds of millions of our children will live an unhealthy life and die early, due to obesity, wrong nutrition, lack of exercise.
• Hundreds of millions of children also will be victims of bullying at school, threatened, intimidates, psychologically damaged.

And now, search machines are supposed to become government spies? In violation of civil rights of hundreds of million law abiding internet users. With the intent to catch a few dozen dangerous "pedophiles" and entrap a couple of thousand harmless surfers who have bad taste and seek photos of young kids?

Watchdog Privacy International immediately stepped up to the plate by issuing a joint statement with search engine Ixquick, entitled: Ixquick: Search Engines Should Become Government Spies, Says EU Parliament. Ixquick has built its reputation on not storing any user search data and therefore feels it has been singled out by the Declaration. For Robert Beens, CEO of Ixquick, Written Declaration 29 would jeopardize the privacy of over 500 million people across Europe when it should really uniquely concern known offenders. "Sex offenders exchange files through underground networks. They don’t find this stuff through search engines," Alex Hanff of Privacy International said in the statement. "I spent eight years helping law enforcement track down online sex offenders and never once did we see a case where search engine data was useful."

Source: http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/100629-053942

Human-Stupidity wrote more about these issues are in these topics: Child porn wich hunt and Teenage Sexuality witch hunt

Related articles about European Union Data Retention Plans

1. EU Politicians Tricked Into Supporting Data Retention On Search Terms… ‘For The Children’ (techdirt.com)
2. European MPs back web-search data retention plan (newstatesman.com)
3. MEPs back web search history plan (independent.co.uk)
4. Ixquick: Search Engines Should Become Government Spies, Says EU Parliament (eon.businesswire.com)
5. Italian MEP Wants To Eliminate Anonymity On the Internet (search.slashdot.org)
6. EU Request To Retain User Data From Search Engines Sparks Widespread Anger (searchenginewatch.com)
7. EU Parliament plans Google-powered paedo detector (go.theregister.com)
8. MEPs call for search engines to store web search histories for two years (telegraph.co.uk)
9. EU Ministers Want ISP and Google Logs To Fight Paedos (dvorak.org)

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• The Criminalization of Teen Sex
• “The Troll Patrol:” Protecting yourself against vigilantism
• “Once Fallen” E-Book by Derek Logue (Abstract of the book, Link to buy PDF or Kindle version)
• False Allegations & Witch Hunts
• A critique of Victim Rights Groups (VRG) in relation to sex offender info and legislation A hilarious rating of “victims rights” groups. Most of them got bad grades for perpetuating false myths and distorting reality. But one group earned his A rating. The  Jacob Wetterling Foundation (www.jwf.org): [...] “A+ (24 points): The JWF sets a gold standard for all VRGs to follow. The site is well put out, their information is free, easily ccessible, and factual. Few other VRGs take a sensible approach to the sex crime problem. Simply put, its as close to perfection as VRGs go “.
• “REGISTRY-MANIA: The Expansion of Sex Offender Registries To Other Undesirables” Actually, I disagree with Derek, I think it might be a good idea to register REAL criminals like child killers, violent criminals, dangerous dogs. Makes more sense then registering consensual child kissers for life.
• About Derek Logue

I am a FORMER Registrant currently residing in Alabama. On February 20, 2000 I was arrested in Alabama for making sexual contact (kissing) with an 11-year-old girl I had known while I was in college (around my 23rd birthday). I plead guilty to one count of 1st degree sexual abuse and received a six year sentence. I served 3 years at Bullock County Correctional Facility in Alabama, voluntarily took sex offender treatment sources, and was released on April 1, 2003.  About Derek Logue

We cannot really know if this story is true, because by our language distorting laws, a child kisser gets called a “child rapist”. This is how our language has been redefined (see other articles   about Child porn wich hunt and Teenage Sexuality witch hunt in this blog)

In 2003 I began posting at www.sexcriminals.com under the screen name “fallenone.” From my time as a regular poster there and at www.sohopeful.org, I found my calling as an advocate for the rights of sex offenders who have paid their debts to society and seek to rebuild their lives.   About Derek Logue

Murderers, burglers, arsonists, extortionists, mob killers, child kidnappers, child mutilators, child killers, everyone gets a chance after they served their term. Interestingly, society is much more afraid of a child kisser then of a child murderer.

As a former sex offender, Derek Logue humbly questions the life sentence of the sex offender law, the fact that they are singled out forever.  He does not even dare question the obvious:

Why would one have to spend 3 years in jail for kissing a 11 year old, if she participated willingly. Maybe her father should have watched the child more closely and slapped Mr. Logan. Looks more appropriate to me, That is what would have happened 50 years ago, before the underage witch hunt began. When age of consent was 12 years old, but that referred to sexual activity, not to kisses. (human-stupidity.com)

If these sex offender laws applied to predators that drag little children into the forest and mutilate and kill them, they probably would make sense. But even then, why are these people singled out? An arsonist who sets a school ablaze with a few child victims, he does not need to register after he gets out of jail! Nor will his neighbors and schools be notified of his presence.

Meet Derek Logue, legal rights activist, book author and former sex offender. Derek speaks out about the sex offender registry, Adam Walsh Act and Ohio’s sex offender residency restrictions.

Indecent touching is the same as rape?
To see an example of the opposite opinion, expressed in distorted misleading language

More specifically, convicted child rapist Derek Logue is claiming that Pagans Against Child Abuse, of which I am a member, is hypocritical because as Pagans we “reject the legal, god-given boundaries of sexuality” unlike people like him who have been convicted of raping an 11-year-old girl.

Gay-Bashing, Child Raping “Conservative Christian” Derek Logue Claims Pagans Have No Morals!

He consensually kissed an 11 year old. One might think that this deserves a penalty. But why call this “rape”? There are very befitting words in our language. “Indecent touching of a child” is very befitting. “Molesting” a child still has a connotation of non-consensual, but sure does not get confused with rape. Now, it is legitimate to discuss the appropriate penalty for indecently touching an 11 year old child. But why do you want to confuse the uninformed population by asking “what should be the penalty for raping an 11 year old child” if the transgression really was not rape but indecent touching?

The only explanation I can find: “You intentionally want to confuse and deceive the average person who is unaware that the alleged “rape” want not a rape at all. This intentional dis-information serves your political agenda to con the average person into agreeing to higher penalties, to sex offender registration, etc”.

Where to draw the line? Mainstream TV doubting the wisdom of sex offender registration as practiced today

Even mainstream ABC TV questions the wisdom, why a 19 year old boyfriend, urged to have sex by his 15 year old girlfriend, should spend his life labeled a rapist? And be on the same sex offender list like multiple “real” serial rapists (who attacked unwilling children with violence and against their will) and child rapist killers.

• Young Lovers or Sex Offender and Victim?
  Texas man branded for life for having sex with his girlfriend, now his wife. See also The Age of Consent: When Young Love Is a Sex Crime: Man Labeled a Sex Offender for Consensual Sex With Girlfriend, Then 15, Now His Wife and rickyslife.com/

• WATCH: Age of Consent: Sex Laws Gone Too Far?
  Sex offender registries created in the 1990′s as a response to media coverage

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• WATCH: Age of Consent: Practice What You Preach
  Some politicians who promote tough sex laws don’t abide by them.

• WATCH: Age of Consent: Double Standard?
  If a woman has sex with a teenage boy, is that less of a crime? Should it be?

Hi Stupidity, it seems that you have been on a bit of a crusade the past day or so on lots of posts from the last month related to rape.

Call it an anti-crusade. Feminists have been on a very successful crusade to re-define language and change legal due process. So a vengeful women’s lone unproven accusation can instantly get the real victim, the falsely accused, into jail. Unlike all other crimes, where proof or multiple witnesses are needed.

Specifically, you have posted fairly demeaning dismissals of victims and the definition of rape.

Demeaning dismissals of linguistic definitions. That is how far we have gotten. Even definitions of terms can not be questioned. The essence of taboos to perpetuate witch hunts and make sure the masses are deceived by misleading perverted re-definition of terms like “rape”

Your comments are not particularly welcome here. Rape is a serious offense and it is incredibly traumatizing for it’s victims. I have removed all of your comments, links and have blocked your account before you post any more comments which would cause pain to real victims of real crimes.

And real victims of real rape get confused with “victims” that consented to fondling!? That is demeaning. And the “perpetrator” of consensual acts then gets gang-raped in prison, because of a pervasive attitude that (falsely convicted) rapists deserve getting raped. That is pain to real victims of real prison rape.

‘Women’s rights at change.org perpetuate manipulative language distortion to foster feminist political goals

It is essential for a witch hunt that dissent gets silenced, made taboo.  Change.org’s feminist watchdogs invoke emotional terms (“cause real pain to real victims of real crimes”) in order to avoid discussing the issues and silence dissent easily.  This is the central issue of Human-Stupidity.com: how Taboos, Dogmas, Religion make even the Intelligent blind, irrational, “stupid”. And self deception makes the censor believe s/he is a liberal person.

Thus, of course, the real pain caused to real victims of witch hunts is totally ignored.  Guys who spend years in jail for consensual sex with an adolescent, or for a unproven false rape accusation. And who get special attention from prison rapists who like to prey on alleged rapists in order to exert cruel and usual punishment.

But my main issue here is not even sex laws. It is manipulative Abuse of Language to deceive the masses. The concerted world wide conspiracy to use the word “rape” for “seducing an adolescent” or for “indecently fondling a minor”. And the perverted inversion of due legal process. Alleged sex offenders are “guilty until proven innocent” and any accusation by a lone alleged victim is taken as proof of a crime.

Change.org dispute: full text follows here

Human Stupidity,
Your comment on the blog entry entitled ‘Teenager Forced to Apologize to Her Church for Being Raped’ has been removed from the Women’s Rights community on Change.org by an administrator.
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REASON: Hi Stupidity, it seems that you have been on a bit of a crusade the past day or so on lots of posts from the last month related to rape. Specifically, you have posted fairly demeaning dismissals of victims and the definition of rape. Your comments are not particularly welcome here. Rape is a serious offense and it is incredibly traumatizing for it’s victims. I have removed all of your comments, links and have blocked your account before you post any more comments which would cause pain to real victims of real crimes. Justin – Community Manager.
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We have removed content submitted by you 1 time. Your account has been locked. If you would like to dispute this, contact us at help at  change.org.
- Change.org
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RAPE: INTENTIONAL MANIPULATION OF LANGUAGE
What do most people understand by the word “rape”? What was the meaning of “rape” for centuries? Non-consensual violent intercourse.
What does the average reader of this article think? They guy attacked the girl in a dark alley and had sex with her under the threat of violence.  Strange, though, that he raped her repeatedly.
Now it is amazing that feminists and moralists managed to put such manipulative language even into penal codes. It is easier to promote your agenda. “Teenager forced to appologize for being seduced” does not sound so shocking.  The word manipulation must  be planned and purposeful.
http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality
http://human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt
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So no matter if you think sex with underage should be punished, I hope you agree that the truth should be said and that manipulative language should be abolished.
By the way, he is a “child rapist”. Because according to new definitions of child pornography, a child now is anyone under 18. The United Nations, the US, and Europe have adopted that definition.
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So, unfortunately we don’t know if he is a rapist in the classic sense, or a statutory rapist who just seduced a girl. A big difference to me. And a  big difference for his chance of being raped once he is in prison.
Then we can disagree on the last point: if a 15 year old can decide who to have sex with. Interestingly, she can decide to have sex with a 16 year old. How come she cannot have sex with a 35 year old? Age discrimination by law?
Are you worried about manipulation of the tender 15 year old?I have a solution:
what about legalizing sex with underage adolescents, if they first undergo an hour of mandatory counselling and a 2 day cool off period? That should take care of this issue. This would guarantee safety for the 15 year old against being conned or manipulated. More safety that is offered to 21 year old tipsy Friday night party girls who may feel sorry for what they did yesterday
Check this for a change: beautiful young women convicted of “raping” poor adolescent boys.
25 hottest sex offenders any boy wishes to become a rape victim of
http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/25-hottest-sex-offenders-boys-want2become-victims

Human Stupidity’s Reply to change.org

Of course I want to dispute this. Deletion and block of my name for having a well argued opinion that negates feminist dogma.
And instead of just deleting an unpopular post INSIDE their feminist area, they resort to expulsion!
Similar opinions as mine were voiced here
http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/reforming_sex_offense_laws and here
http://womensrights.change.org/blog/view/johnny_depp_defends_rapist

The points I made were
a) unproven rape accusations are always taken at face value and accepted as totally true, so the accused’s life is finished. No matter if the accusation is false
b) non violent consensual teenage sex should not be called rape
“I have dismissals of definition of rape”: yes, I resent to use the word rape for consensual sex. I think confusing consensual sex with an adolescent with violent rape, this is dismissing to victims of REAL violent non-consensual rape.
I have “dismissal of victims of rape” :  I think real rape is very bad. This is why I resent using the word “rape” for fondling, or for consensual sex. For example, statutory rape of adolescent boys by gorgeous 20 something women, I really don’t have much pity on the poor boys.
I also resent that the unproven accusation of one single, potentially vindictive female can ruin a man’s life. While the unproven accusation of murder or robbery will lead to no conviction.
Of course, I don’t really know. If it is necessary to be politically correct, to adopt the feminist creed, then maybe I should be kicked out.
Guess I should not have given such opinions in a feminist forum. They don’t react kindly to diverging opinion.
I thought this was an open forum, open for diverging Iand provocative deas. But, maybe, it is not!?

Change.org’s grievance procedure: Justin denies the appeal of Justin’s censorship

Hi Human Stupidity,
You are perhaps right that expressing these opinions inside a woman’s rights site would raise some ire. And you are also correct that we are open to dissenting views – after all, we are not Same.org. But, dissenting does not include dismissing or offensive. Your comments were, and are, very dismissive of the harm done to women by rape, and in this case, oppressive rape.
With such strongly held views, there are probably more appropriate places for you to spend your efforts.
All the best,
Justin
Change.org, Community Manager.

Justin,
It is amazing that an appeal of a decision taken by Justin gets reviewed and denied by Justin. Is this how change.org is run? Are you the only admin at change.org? Or are you intentionally withholding this from other administrators at change.org?

I was not aware that change.org was a women’s right site. Women’s rights have a history of silencing dissent.I thought change.org was a bit more balanced and allowed critical discussion of issues. Don’t forget to kick out the people I cited who made similar critical comments.

I petition that your decision should be reviewed by a Community Manager of Change.org’s criminal justice department. After all, your action prevents me from supporting actions like these

http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/whats_so_funny_about_prison_rape or http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/prison_rape_a_hidden_crisis or http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/an_end_to_prison_rape

Prison rape involves years of sex slavery and repeated gang rape of prisoners who are thought to “deserve” it. About as gruesome as life in Fritzl’s dungeon. Feminists are even more silent about prison rape then they are silent about muslim women’s repression and the burka.

Ancient Greek Pedophile art: An ephebe kisses a man. 5th c.. At the Louvre. Proof of age not available.

Isn’t it strange? For traditional feminists who want female equality, freedom and self determination, it looks amazing

• feminists don’t oppose the burka and are quiet about Muslim repression of females (because Muslims successfully keep women away from the eyes of the feminist’s spouses)
• feminists successfully restrict women’s right to choose sexual services (prostitution) as a profession. that often pays lots more money then other work. Of course, men who can pay $100 to an attractive prostitute are less likely to marry an average looking fat aging woman who later will take away half their property and demand half their income.
• I got convinced that the antifeminists hypothesis is the most parsimonious explanation for these apparent contradictions.

Feminists conspire to increase their sexual value by eliminating female sexual of competition

Pedophile witch hunters & feminists are NOT concerned about children’s well being

If draconian child porn laws were to protect children, why then videos of real child killings are legal?
Nude adolescent photos: a Crime. Videos of lynching, killing, beating adolescents are legal Prime Time TV.

Congratulations to the antifeminist blog, they are the only ones that give a sensible explanation for this: feminists want to cut of competition to their sexual monopoly so men will continue paying high prices for sex (marriage with life long support and half of all property on divorce).

I quote the antifeminist blog, I could not say this any better.

Why do I think you are obsessed with criminilizing everything and only those things that harm your particular, selfish reproductive and sexual needs? Because that is all you seem to be interested in. What about teenage girls bullying and beating each other up on video and then having them uploaded to websites that make money from advertisements? Naahh, no sexual threat, therefore nothing to say. What about teenage girls and even 10 year old girls appearing on reality tv shows to be exploited for commercial gain by adults and clearly suffering psychological distress as a result? Nope, no specific sexual threat to your reproductive interests so you have probably never given it two seconds thought. A 17 year old who likes to screw older men? You don’t want your man running off with or even looking at a hot 17 year old, so therefore 17 year old girls can’t give meaingful consent and older men should be criminilized.[...]

Can 17 year old girls make meaningful decisions about whether or not their unborn babies should be killed? Is having sex really more complex than deciding which political party is best able to govern? Surely if an 18 year old can vote, a 17 year old can fuck? And how come she can consent to sex with another 17 year old and not a 25 year old??
http://www.theantifeminist.com/the-chilling-banality-of-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-2452

12 year old street children sleep on sidewalk while police hunts sex tourists who befriend 17 year old girls

I myself and many friends have, in a fairly rich third world country, witnessed 12 year old girls roaming and begging in the streets and sleeping on the sidewalk. Pretty soon they will be pregnant, impregnated by a street kid, and give birth to a street baby. All this in a very rich city neighborhood, and very visible to police and law enforcement.

Disclaimer: posting as “Devil’s advocate” I post suggestions that outrageously fly in the face of conventional opinion! Prepare to get shocked!

Would these girls not be better off if taken care of by a loving mature responsible pedophile like Jack McClellan, who would clothe them, send them to school, and give them birth control?
Instead of tetting education from street criminals, being at the mercy of street kid gangs (also sexually), lacking health services

Yes, I know, readers will be furious and quote this out of context to discredit this entire blog.

Yes, I know there are other possible solutions. But where are they? Where is Interpol,hunting down this girl so she could be sent to a decent school and quality foster parents? Interpol hunting the truant girl with the same might they would hunt down people for owning one single nude photo of the same girl! Where are the United Nations boycotting that country for neglecting to take care of kids. Where are feminists complaining about the orphan and child care facilities that are so bad that kids prefer the streets? They are too busy worrying about preventing distribution of 30 year old photographs.

At the same time, government and police are engaged in a hunt for tourists (and the occasional local) who have relationships with 17 year olds.

Distortion of terminology in the service of manipulation

It is quite amazing how language gets distorted, in order to dupe people to think this witch hunt is justified. Adolescent nude erotic photos become “child pornography”. In Europe, they defined now photos of very young looking 23 year olds with pony tails as “child pornography”

How to change these laws and witch hunts?

Ancient Greek Art: Child Porn depicting criminal Child Abuse (by today's standards)

Turn back the laws by 60 years

It is interesting, surprising even to myself. If asked how laws should be changed, my answer is:

• just go back to the sexual laws30-50 -120 years ago

Men were intelligent enough to sanction REAL abuse of REAL children. All other stuff was invented later. (read up on my web site, I just wrote a lot about the child porn witch hunt issue (child-porn-witch-hunt and Teenage Sexuality witch hunt )

Expose excesses & manipulative deception of the masses & academia

Honest language would be required. Language get raped (excuse the metaphor) to deceive the masses. Not only the masses! Academia (women’s studies, sociology), law, United Nations all buy into this manipulation. Everyone! Amazing!

Using words that for thousands of years had a clear meaning (rape) to mean something totally different (consensual sex, or mere fondling, of minors). This purposeful deception does not lend itself to truth-finding.

Maybe people get tired of ridiculous excesses like

• prosecution for taking naked photos of own kids in the bath,
• Girl 13, charged as sex offender and victim at the same time
• Sexting: Teens face child porn charges for exchanging their own nude photos
• To Catch a Predator” witch hunt by NBC Dateline & “Perverted Justice”
• 25 hottest sex offenders any boy wishes to become a victim of
• Teenage boy jailed and sentenced for consensually kissing teenage girl (Marco Weiss-Charlotte-Turkey)
• Italian arrested in Fortaleza (Brazil) for kissing (2 pecks) his 8 year old daughter
• Man who sought prostitute for son (14y) sentenced

Promote real research

Repression and prohibition of of academic research also helps perpetuating the witch hunt. (“Child Abuse” Dogmatists Repress Scientific Research). Like the persecution of Galileo Galilei. If the truth is suppressed to serve special interests (the Bible, or the feminist agenda), witch hunts get promoted.

Females winning evolutionary Male Femal Power Games

I am starting to get inspired to analyze, from an evolutionary point of view, how we got to where we are now. It seems to me:  men and women always had conflicts of interest. In the EEA (50 000 years ago in the savanna):

• Men had physical power, economical power (meat from killed prey, territory, …).
• Women had social and group manipulation skills and cunningness as their only counter-weapon to counter overpowering male physical power. Women even manage to enlist men to promote their issues …….

For stone age women, the only power they had to keep brute men at check would be

• acting as a cohesive group of solidary females
• shaming men for sexual digressions
• shaming men preventively BEFORE they could do sexual digressions

Men developed no defense against this because

• men still had the brute strength argument
• men still had the power to withhold food and protection
• women were usually right. They did not do excesses like punishing men with 20 years in jail for making cave drawings or stick figures of minors

Now men gave up both economic power and brute strength. Women kept all their power of cunningness. So women are winning on all fronts.

Comments? I am very interested in further research about the above hypotheses.  How can this be proven?

Well, I have shown, on this blog, that the underage sex, child porn, prostitution discussion is rife with deceitful language. That people make a big difference between issues of violent crimes (low penalties), depictions of violence (absolutely no penalty for crime and gore movies), and sexual thoughts and depictions (insane penalties).

Males gave away their power, females kept and increased their power

To be very provocative, a Devil’s Advocate, maybe men erred by giving women voting rights and all kind of other special rights and protections. They took these rights and used their superior social group skills to overpower men. Probably can not be undone. So how can men earn back their rights? No sane politician will legalize prostitution, decrease the age of consent, undo child porn laws. Unless, yes, maybe men band together like feminists ….

Or just give up and pay half of your income for your divorced ex-wive’s support and pay your child support without having the right to interfere and no right decide for which school your hard earned money is being spent. Too busy earning money to support your ex, no time for thinking and writing replies to blogs.

And too scared to go out, you might be leering at a 17 year old and arrested for your indecent thoughts.

Expose feminism, as in the antifeminist blog

I repeat again the very compelling theory, that

feminism is a trade Union to foster the self interest of middle aged unattractive women.

Middle aged unattractive feminists conspire to eliminate female sexual of competition

• increase age of consent to eliminate competition by very young attractive women (age of consent used to be 12, is now 18 everywhere and there seem to be plans to increase it to 21 worldwide).
• prohibit prostitution, to eliminate cheap easy sex
• try to eliminate pornography, which gives men sexual relief without needing live women
• try to eliminate sex dolls (while not restricting vibrators)

By eliminating other sexual outlets, men have no other sexual outlet and are thus forced to stay with unattractive women and pay dearly for it: it might cost them half their income and half their property. This is why this brand of feminists do not oppose the burka (eliminates competitors), do not favor self determination in prostitutes (picket violators, giving merchandise away cheaply)

Promote real equal rights feminism

There are a small number of different feminists who actually are concerned with equal rights and female freedom. But these are outnumbered and pretty quiet.

Consider Gender Activism for Males

Females seem extremely skilled at defending their interests verbally, getting social and group support, garnering sympathy of the masses, of law makers, even getting academic recognition for their private agenda. Men are lone hunters who just are getting overpowered by the social might of the feminists.

Or maybe men need protective laws, like feminists? So they don’t get into jail for following their normal instincts while they are not harming anyone! Like jail for looking at photos.

Years of Jail for "clicking on child porn link". But lynching videos are legal & Border arrest & instant jail for owning DVD with young looking 19 year old porn star. Any honest citizen risks jail

.Depictions of violent child & adolescent beatings and killings are shown on prime time TV.  Tasteful nude photos of adolescents are VERY illegal, a crime, a terrible felony.

Unconscious stupidity and taboos analyzed

Why different standards for clicking and linking to various illegal material

Would someone be sent to 5-45 years of jail for CLICKING drug or prostitution LINKS?

• click here for illegal prostitutes (over 18)
• click here to buy hemp seed legal in Holland
• click here to buy cocaine
• click here to get info where to buy cocaine & crack

But clicking on “Click here for illegal child sex” is a crime.

What problem is there in possession of pictures of lawful events, or linking to them

filming and photographing FACTS that happen anyway

• teenagers filming themselves naked
• teenagers filming themselves having the sex they have anyway and they can legally have because of similar age
• toddlers filmed naked by their parents

Nobody gets harmed, nothing illegal happens. Why are there enormous penalties for possessing depictions of legal non-violent events?

Posessing depictions of real sexual abuse like sex play with a toddler carries much worse then REAL physical abuse

Even possession of REAL child pornography of the worst kind, while in bad taste, does not warrant higher penalties then allowing REAL child torture. A mother got 6 months in jail for allowing and watching her boyfriend torture her 3 year old child regularly with burning, drowning, locking into the freezer …. The penalty for the real perpetrator and torturer (5-8 years?) is way less then the 20 years expected for possession of a DVD with 23 year old Little Lupe Porn

6-foot, 210-pound Piskorski spanked Noah with a belt, forcibly held the child under 130-degree water causing extensive second-degree burns and pressed the child’s hands against a wall heater until grill marks were burned into Noah’s skin http://dailyme.com/story/2010050800001108/oregon-city-man-convicted-scalding-beating.html#ixzz0nj4shULq

Normally the criminal gets punished, not the person having depictions of the crime.

Proof: see two videos and some pictures below, of maiming, lynching, mistreating real people. Nothing about the pictures is illegal, they were transmitted by prime time Television.

Why are depictions of sexual activities so much worse then depictions of killing children and violence against children?

(1) Whoever violates, or attempts or conspires to violate, paragraph (1), (2), or (3) of subsection (a) shall be fined under this title and imprisoned not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, but if such person has a prior conviction under this chapter, section 1591, chapter 71section 1591, chapter 71, chapter 109A, or chapter 117, or under section 920 of title 10 (article 120 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), or under the laws of any State relating to aggravated sexual abuse, sexual abuse, or abusive sexual conduct involving a minor or ward, or the production, possession, receipt, mailing, sale, distribution, shipment, or transportation of child pornography, or sex trafficking of children, such person shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not less than 15 years nor more than 40 years. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2252.html

Would someone be sent 5 to 45 years in jail for for "production, possession, receipt, mailing, sale, distribution, shipment, or transportation of depictions of extreme violence and extreme physical abuse of a child"? NO! See examples below But there are jail terms for having 2 grainy low resolution photos of a nude teenager in a thumbnail database. That is a terrible crime.

Sorry for posting very tasteless violent pictures and movies, but I am trying to make a point. You may want to skip the movies

• One can show, store, possess, distribute a video killing a child (16 year olds nowadays are called children).
• If he were naked, masturbating, or making love to his girl friend, then this would warrant 5-45 years of jail.
• but a movie of him clubbed to death, that is perfectly, see below